I wish I could be as optimistic as the guest about countries, including the United States, pushing back against the CCP: in fact, I see it going exactly the opposite direction-- in America, they call him "Bejing Biden" for a reason. I think the guest is also missing or underestimating the pressure corporations will put on governments to "open the doors": think of Disney, the NBA, Blizzard, and so forth.
There is no limit to how far corporations will bend over for the CCP, censoring their products, censoring their consumers, directly implementing civilian censorship systems for the CCP in the case of Google, and so forth.
He also has commentary beginning around the 17:03 mark, ostensibly regarding the Trump Administration's relationship with China-- which I will take in another direction. More after the quote:
"Having the courage to see the danger of the Chinese regime, the repressiveness of that regime, and not just the courage to see that and to say so, but to change policy as a result. I really applaud many of the things the administration has done to move away from this naive idea that you can just engage with such a repressive regime, behind closed doors, only with words-- that actually what you need to get the message across is punitive measures: the kind of sanctions the US has introduced."
Conservatives in America need to come to grips with the fact that what they've conventionally thought of as "their government", is most certainly not: rather, they should frame it in their minds as a foreign State, like France, or Zimbabwe, or China. They should view it as an absolutely repressive regime, which just so happens to be operating on North American soil: they should abandon naive notions that this regime can be negotiated with using words; rather, they should be deciding on which hard-line measures to take, both on a small scale to protect their families, and also on a larger-scale mobilization to action.
All of this makes me think of this self-described "paleocon" guy I used to talk politics with: at first he seemed pretty bright, but after a bit he started to strike me as extremely naive. After a bit more, I was able to put my finger on it: it's like every time he had a conversation, or observed some phenomenon, it was like the first time: in other words, he was unable to either remember or apply the lessons he and others had learned, sometimes even the very previous day.
He was very frustrating to communicate with: "didn't we just go over this yesterday?" After a while, I essentially stopped replying to his messages, and he sort of disappeared into the ether. But he's by far not the only one I've encountered like this: so many people are so emotionally blinded by prior loyalties that they are unable to process when those loyalties have been betrayed, so they never adjust their perceptions.