I thought this would be interesting, but both of them were terrible.

For his part, Molyneux got hung up on the pretty basic concept that the idea of a thing is different than a specific, physical manifestation of that thing-- as in, there is the notion of a "ball", and then there is that literal ball sitting right on the floor right across the room. Hurr.

For this Dyer fellow, he sounded sort of like a crazy hippie. In the end, Molyneux totally ceded the floor: "Walk the audience through your proof of God." Dyer's response went something like, "There is this other universe of abstract things. Boom, God!" Not the best syllogism I've ever heard, that's for sure.

It's a shame, because I thought this was a good chance for someone to clear up my confusion related to the ancient "materialism versus idealism" debate. I guess that will need to wait for another day.

I did watch another video recently which was good though: this is Thomas Sowell, someone about whom I've heard a lot, but also about whom I have never gone out of my way to look up. He is the real deal, as it turns out.